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...but, instead I'm watching Angel and SMG movies.  I just watched Suburban Girl for the first time.  The thought of SMG getting with Alex Baldwin kinda grossed me out at first, but I actually ended up liking them together.  It was a pretty decent movie overall.  Any thoughts on it?

I've also been watching Angel for a couple of weeks now, DVRing it on TNT.  I'm finally up to S5 which means it's almost SPIKE TIME!!  I've never seen S5 before so I'm very excited about it.  I like Angel(us) so much more than when he was on Buffy.  I'm pretty much in love with all the characters, it's hard to choose a favorite...Wesley is just amazinggggg!  I love his scruffy sexiness.  He's so smart and the sexual tension/chemistry between him/Lilah and him/Fred is DELICIOUS!  Speaking of Lilah, Eve is a terrible substitute for her.  I was completely skeeved out by the Cordy/Connor relationship...Angelus was dead on with the mommy issues.  I guess technically she's only 4 years older than him, but she definitely didn't look like a 22 year old on the show!  Can anyone tell me why Cordy left the show?  

Lorne...Fred...Gunn...I like them all, too.  Wasn't really very fond of Fred/Gunn, but I guess they weren't terrible together.  I particularly like how petite Fred is, but she's always down for the fight.  She was a bit annoying when she first got back from Pylea, but I've really grown to like her a lot.  

Has anyone ever done a comparison between the characters on Angel and the characters on Buffy?  I'd be interested to see comparisons between Lilah/Wes and Buffy/Spike.  As I was watching, I noticed some similarly disfunctional undertones...

Anyway, like I said I really should be writing.  There are only one or two more chapters in Playing Dirty and I already have a sequel in mind, so I need to stop being so lazy and get back to work!!  

Date: 2011-07-09 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com
Lilah/Wes and Buffy/Spike have similar dysfunctional undertones INDEED. Unsurprisingly, I ship them both LIKE WHOA. xD

Hope you enjoy S5! I'm very fond of it.

Date: 2011-07-09 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boot-the-grime.livejournal.com
Yeah, there are similarities. But the difference is that Buffy wasn't obsessing over someone else while she was sleeping with Spike and having Spike dress up and pretend to be that person during sex.

Come to think of it, the only other relationship where that happened was Spike/Harmony.

Date: 2011-07-09 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Apart from that one particular incident, I don't see that Lilah/Wes and Spike/Harmony have much in common. IMO, the former actually shared genuine feelings, despite Wesley's falalala denial land tendencies. Spike/Harmony was never substantial. Though, admittedly pretty entertaining.

Date: 2011-07-09 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boot-the-grime.livejournal.com
I never said they had anything much in common. You misunderstood that part.

Date: 2011-07-09 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com
Right. Your comment there just made it seem like you were associating the two.

Date: 2011-07-09 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spuffy-noelle.livejournal.com
No, but Buffy has her own issues going on. Same with Wesley, he had been abandoned by all his friends and started "sleeping with the enemy". Much like Buffy trying to get away from her friends by doing the same (even though, clearly, Spike ISN'T the enemy and hadn't been for quite a while).

Date: 2011-07-09 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boot-the-grime.livejournal.com
I didn't say there weren't similarities, there definitely were.

For comparisons between BtVS and AtS characters, another one, even more obvious: Holtz and Wood. Even the names: "Holtz" is similar to "holz", German for wood, and wood is used to kill a vampire. But in this case, AtS had a much stronger story (and a much bigger one, of course, spanning an entire season and having long-lasting repercussions). Wood turned out not be as far gone and obsessed with revenge as Holtz was - there was a danger he could be, but he overcame it - but Holtz's story was so strong because he was completely consumed with revenge and it made him become really evil in a tragic way.

Date: 2011-07-11 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tennyo-elf.livejournal.com
I only watched AtS for the support cast, not a fan of Angel. But I think Angel(us) was more fun on Buffy, almost kind of wish they didn't do the spin off.

But the support cast is awesome, Lorne, Wesley, Fred and Gunn are so nice. I agree with you on Fred/Gunn, they were meh. I definitely loved the Fred/Wes stuff.

I see a little similarities between Spuffy and Lilah/Wes, but not overly so.

Oh, yes, I seriously didn't like Eve too.

More Spike though, more to love.

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